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today on the show I have my dream team

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of UFO journalists Jason McClellan

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Maureen Elsberry and Mike Demonte this

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is the 2018 UFO Year in Review this is

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somewhere in the skies the Branzburg

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welcome to the official somewhere in the

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skies 2018 UFO year-in-review I'm your

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host Ryan Sprague and I have an awesome

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lineup of guests today featuring rogue

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planets very own Jason McCullen and

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Maureen Elsberry and our resident punk

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rock ufologist Mike Demonte thank you

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all of you for joining me today thank

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you for having us and I'm jealous of

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Mike's title I want to be the punk rock

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ufologist all right

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good point I may be selling you short

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there Jason no scar very good scholar

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just there you go that might have been

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more fitting but ya know I'm happy I

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would share that title with you we

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should start our own our own sub sub

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branch our own subculture of UFOs with

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punk rock I only forget tag team titles

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yeah we can do that I'll be the 90's alt

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rock ufologist Maureen what is it what

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does that make you I'm gonna cover like

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a 70s punk rock like you know the Dead

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Boys and Richard hell in the void oh

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it's that area rock of it go wrong with

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the classics absolutely not digging deep

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there that's awesome well guys I mean

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it's been a year a crazy year for UFOs a

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crazy year for everything but um before

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we even get into all that I'd love to

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know what y'all been up to Mike I mean I

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know you came out with a book let's talk

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about that let's talk about that first

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Mike what have you been up to in 2018

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punk rock and UFOs true believers came

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out I continued doing kind of podcast

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radio some TV some opportunities have

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kind of popped up but who knows

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it's you know it's the interesting thing

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is you know sometimes when you start

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writing and you you know you're blogging

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a lot and you're writing a book you just

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kind of dive deep into it and then once

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you know you're the finished project out

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you're able to like breathe for a little

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bit yeah so like right out like

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breathing a little because it's like

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that there's there's so much stuff

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that's happened this year and you

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followed you which we'll cover today

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it's just compared to last year I feel

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like there has been many opportunities

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to kind of step back this

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there's news right and I mean right

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before the New Year last year's when

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they you know the big stories broke you

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know to the Stars and New Times articles

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so you know that was a great way to sort

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of ring in the New Year but then since

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then we've had a lot of follow up with a

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lot of that which we will get to but

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Maureen Jason I saw you guys what a week

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ago here in Los Angeles or so so I mean

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I know it kind of been up to but what's

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new with you guys go ahead Maureen okay

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for me you know I've been kind of in the

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back burner here for a while because my

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whole life has been taken up with work

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lately super fun and a lot of traveling

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doing some side projects related to UFOs

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done a little speaking this year we had

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some good panels at Denver Comic Con

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Jason and I for our fourth year and

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Jeremy Korbel actually was on one of our

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panels as well and writing a book that

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will probably take me ten years to

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finish so yeah

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about G Jason yeah yeah I've got got to

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got a few books that are going to take

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me a couple couple 10 years times to to

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write so we'll see where that goes but

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in the coming months that that might

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involve some of the people on this show

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today yeah speaking it at conventions

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just spoke with you Ryan at a lien con

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the great alien Con in Baltimore that

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was a lot of fun and you know that

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that's just where I have my greatest joy

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related to UFOs and other associated

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topics because like I say with all my

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work I focus on the general public not

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necessarily the UFO community you have a

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research community my my goal is to

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reach the general public share the

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information that I have and encourage

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people to get excited about the topic

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and do their own research so events like

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Comic Cons or the perfect venue for that

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so I had a great opportunity to do a lot

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of that this year and there's more of

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that coming in the next year

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looking forward to that 20 teens been a

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year full of just regular life stuff so

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really busy here with that in a slow

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year for me in terms of my my UFO

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passions so we'll see if I could fix

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that in 2019 yeah and I mean one of my

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favorite moments from alien conjuration

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was when like a god like a 12 year 13

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year old boy came up to you and asked to

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take a picture with you because he

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followed your work I will never forget

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that man that shows like the younger

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people are interested in this topic and

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you know if it's gonna come from alien

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con so be it sort of the first thing I

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want to that's really fresh in all of

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our minds and probably the listeners as

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well is this recent release of the

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documentary by Jeremy Korbel bob lazar

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well I am telling the truth I've tried

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to prove that what's going on up there

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could be the most important event in

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history you're talking about contact

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physical physical contact and proof from

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another another system another planet

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and other intelligence that's got to be

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the biggest event in history period and

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it's real and it's real and it's there

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Maureen and I were able to see the world

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premiere of this here in Los Angeles

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days before us to review for punk rock

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and UFOs so before we get into the other

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things that have happened this year I

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want to know what your guys reaction and

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girls reactions were to the movie so

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let's start with Mike you you saw the

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film before us what did you think of it

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I really enjoyed it the only criticism I

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about Jeremy's feel films are his the

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certain narrative style he shoots it in

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which kind of make them like kind of

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like everyone feels like a similar

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formula but this is by far my favorite

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film he's done I think he did a really

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good job of telling Bob was our story

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and I mean a lot of it it's in defense

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of Bob Lazar there's not you know too

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much opposition to him but it does

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really paint a good picture of the whole

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story of where he's at right now and

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from the beginning it was entertaining

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as well was fascinating I think it's

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something that you can show anyone and

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the fact that it's getting all this

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positive press and Jeremy's flying all

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over the country to impress for it and

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people writing articles about it I think

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it's it's definitely just the idea of

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doing a film on it was a home run and

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everyone has really seems to enjoy I

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into a lot of the mainstream right now

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I'm seeing Jeremy all over the place New

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York LA doing all these like really

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fresh sort of vice-like interviews so

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it's definitely getting out to the

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younger people Maureen Jason I know you

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guys witnessed this to so many like

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younger people came to this world

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premiere of a UFO documentary which

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really blew me away I don't know about

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you guys but what did you guys make of

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the film we didn't really have a lot of

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time after to talk everyone had to go

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their separate ways so I'd love to hear

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what she all thought of this movie

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premiere was my second time seeing it

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and and I liked the film I think what I

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told Jeremy too was that I think he did

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a really good job of presenting the

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story especially to the general public

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people who don't know a lot about this

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story will be like holy moly you know

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what was going on with this there are a

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few tidbits that are new in the film for

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people who are super familiar with the

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story and everything that happened over

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the last thirty years

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and so those are fun bits to see again

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we're quite close with Jeremy and so we

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knew some of the I don't want to give

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any spoilers out for people who haven't

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watched the film so some of the things

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we were aware of that it happened that

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are supposed to be these big

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groundbreaking things so again it's more

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entertainment style that you don't

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normally see in UFO documentaries more

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fast paced and I think that's the kind

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of style that draws younger people as

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well because there the music the

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soundtrack the visuals that's what's

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going to get all these younger people

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interested in what the actual material

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and subject matter is behind it so you

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know obviously it's an extremely

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polarizing case and well you didn't see

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so much of the opposition side of the

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people who think he's lying in full of

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both sides of the story I think yeah I

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mean I agree with you I think Jeremy

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could have went a little further with

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the other side of it but he did push Bob

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several times which I definitely

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appreciated a lot of people have you

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being very not apologetic but very pro

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belief when it comes to his films in

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these things so I'm glad he went there

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with this I think this is like Mike said

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his strongest film yet and agreed with

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you on several points to Maureen there

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weren't any huge bombshells that left me

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feeling differently I felt the same as I

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felt before the film leaving it

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what did you think Jason well I

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certainly had fun with it and I I think

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that this is more a film for the UFO

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crowd I think if you are familiar with

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the Lazar story and you're a UFO

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quote-unquote fan it's a fun movie

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because right here's the story about a

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guy that we've all known about and read

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about for years and we're seeing him

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how close to duplicating the alien

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propulsion system did you achieve

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material that I mean even the casing

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material and we didn't really even

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understand it was going on it's one of

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those things where we couldn't see

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what's happening and be proficient at

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using it but there wasn't a single thing

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we could duplicate at all at least at

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the time when I was there I have no idea

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where they are at this point did you

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have any breakthroughs when you were

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working at us for an alien spacecraft

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time you you were able to decipher

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something it was a breakthrough I mean

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super-heavy element that was a

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breakthrough when we finally figured out

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how the reactor and the amplifier work

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together that was the breakthrough when

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we finally figured out how to shut the

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reactor off that was great to me and

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every single

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thing was amazing to us it's like you

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know having a couple little children

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playing with advanced materials it's

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it's just all you know it's pretty much

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all a lot some of us have seen Bob

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before so not that new and cool but it

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is still awesome I mean let's face it

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whatever side you're on with this story

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it's still like a huge thing in the UFO

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world so being able to see Bob there in

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person see Bob's story on the big screen

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and you know dig a little deeper into it

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that's awesome

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so I enjoyed it for that I still am left

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with tons of questions and you know

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contrary to the claims that Jeremy's

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made many times and certainly made at

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the premiere this film does not answer

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all the questions it doesn't prove you

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know all the counterclaim or claims that

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people make in in opposition to Lazar

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story and some of the things presented

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in defense of Bob or things that George

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Knapp came forward with many many years

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ago so you know there are still

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questions to be asked and we will be ro

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planet will certainly be doing a video

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interview with Jeremy in the coming

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weeks or months and we will push on some

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of those things that are there left

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unanswered but overall I had fun with

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the film and I'm gonna be controversial

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here and push against you guys and say

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this was not my favorite

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Jeremy film I'm gonna say my favorite

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film of his is alien scalpel the one

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about the work of Roger Leir simply

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because Jeremy's past two films have

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relied heavily on the work of George

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Knapp and you know have featured you

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know footage and interviews and in

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things that George Napa's has worked on

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over the years in his career whereas

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with the Roger Leir story that was

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Jeremy do an investigative piece and

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actually doing scientific research

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funded out of his pocket to further a

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story that it had existed and really

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profiled the work of Roger Lear and the

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subtopic of alleged alien implants

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so for me that was Jeremy's best work to

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date

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I enjoyed the visuals of the lazar film

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I enjoyed the topic of the lazar film

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and like I said as a UFO guy I thought

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it was fun yeah jeremy has hinted that a

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nano man who was featured heavily in the

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alien scalpel film will have his day he

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said so I think we can expect a lot more

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on the testing front yeah that's awesome

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I I do agree when Jeremy focuses his

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lens on individuals without archival

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footage I think I think that is when we

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get the best stuff out of them Jason so

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now I I I'm gonna I'm gonna retract my

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statement and I'm gonna go with you man

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I really did enjoy patient 17 is that

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what it was officially called I think I

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think that's what I was called yeah yeah

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that is a really good point it was

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investigative filmmaking edits at its

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finest you know from beginning to end

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and I think now you know Jeremy doesn't

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have much more to rely on in terms of

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naps investigative work as his mentor

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and I I certainly respect him for doing

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something like that bringing these cases

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to light again but I look forward to see

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what he decides to do next after he

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rests after these two films have come

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out in the past two months with him so

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well we'll give him a little break

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before we start pushing him but the real

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debate is yet to come on

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Baltazar I think now that the film is

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out there to the mainstream for good and

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bad the real debate is just beginning so

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I'm sure with only a lot more of that

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and like you mentioned on your recent

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episode Ryan with John Greenwald I think

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the biggest plus of this whole thing is

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that Bob Lazar is in the news again Bob

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Lazar the story you know even in UFO

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circles had largely kind of fizzled out

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it was gone from our from the topic of

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conversation but here it is you know

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again in media major media outlets kids

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are watching this movie it's been the

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number one movie on iTunes so new people

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are discovering the story of Bob Lazar

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and again regardless of what side of

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that debate you're on Pro

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or con with Lazarre it's still an

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important piece of UFO history it's a

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story that we should be aware about it's

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something that we should research it's

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something that we should form opinions

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about and we've got a new generation a

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fresh crop of people who are discovering

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Bob Lazar and the area 51 story as told

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by Lazar for the first time I love it

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yeah and I mean my girlfriend who

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thought Bob Lazar was a total con man a

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fraud before she left the film saying I

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actually I believe that something

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happened to him and I don't think he's

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lying

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so right there that was enough for me

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having someone that close to me who is a

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true skeptic through and through say wow

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that that actually I believe something

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happened that was enough for me to leave

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being like okay conversations starting

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now but um I want to move the

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conversation guys to some some savings

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that happened this year that were pretty

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interesting and a lot of these I have to

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add came from Tyler rogue away who Jason

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I know you you interviewed Tyler am I

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correct

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now that's right yeah so this guy works

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for a website called the war zone and

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he's bringing these military UFO cases

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delight that a lot of us didn't really

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know about and once that it sort of been

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circulating in you know military outlets

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other you know rather than the

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mainstream and whatnot so the before we

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get to sort of the ones he he was

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looking at we had this Ireland sighting

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on November 9th where multiple pilots

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saw these speeding bright lights this

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was later confirmed by two pilots you

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can hear the actual audio from this ok

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so there's nothing showing on either

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primary or secondary ok it was really so

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far just like you said they love the

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surface yes yes alongside Estes it's

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huge hell of a now let's have a run

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rapidly we're to the north we saw bright

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light as many since this here that is

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very high speed and here it is one

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duration you didn't think it was very

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likely from this record to this one

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vision was activity this is multiple

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objects follows a sort of the projection

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very process where we were okay left off

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Uganda is their direction it was thrown

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in or anything the budget all that all

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that or let my opposition to bright

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light why deduct off you thank you

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thought it was acutely the pilot said it

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was moving fast it seemed to come up

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over the left hand side of their planes

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rapidly rapidly veered to the north and

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disappeared at a very high speed

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this one really made the rounds really

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quick and I think again it's because

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pilots reported this and it's still

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being investigated

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apparently so a lot of people believe it

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could be meteorites but um that's yet to

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be decided

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so do any of you guys have any other

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knowledge on this case any follow-ups

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well unfortunately yeah as far as I know

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there has been no follow-up and that's

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the frustrating thing with UFO research

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and even when there's a great story that

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hits mainstream media outlets around the

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world and seems to be all they're all

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the rage at the time it's likely all

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you're going to ever hear about that

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particular case because there is no

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follow-up there is no additional

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information that comes out the reporters

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who report it usually report the initial

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instance but they don't do the follow-up

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and that's where Tyler drug away you

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mentioned is a true remarkable

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journalist journalist through and

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through because he does the leg work he

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does contact everybody he can think of

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from military and government to airports

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to pilots and tries to get the full

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story and continues to follow up until

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he can get a follow up story or some

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more answers to further develop that

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story or add to that story with Ireland

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I haven't seen any of that but I did see

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you know you certainly get a lot of this

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to where you have some scientists who

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like to chime in and without even

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bothering bothering to read the the

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initial reports form an opinion about

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what the UFO was and in this case we saw

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a lot of that because even one of the

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pilots suggested that it might be a

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meteor or another object making some

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kind of reentry however one of the

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pilots described the object

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as climbing away at an incredible speed

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you know things meteors or things

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entering the atmosphere don't climb yeah

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I know these audio and what's really

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interesting is getting back to Rogo a he

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like you said Jason he puts the legwork

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in and I have to read this quote by him

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that I found in an article because a lot

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of people think that a lot of people in

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the aviation field or aerospace may not

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be interested in UFOs and as a

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journalist directly speaking to these

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people rogue away says I'll tell you

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anyone that is in the aerospace world

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and journalism and tell you that they

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have no interest in the legacy of UFOs

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and the whole history that goes along

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with it is lying to you it is an

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interesting thing even for the sake of

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Lauren intrigue so I have followed it

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very closely I think that's really

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that's very telling that you know pilots

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are interested in these things

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aviation people are interested in these

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things and he's the one bringing that

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legitimacy to these cases we have the

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one in Arizona in February again two

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pilots saw a flying saucer passed over

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their planes and there's audio of this

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one as well I don't know what was at

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least two 3,000 feet above the top we

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have audio

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you know testimony of these things

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happening which i think is really

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interesting and did we also have a

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California Oregon case earlier there was

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Oregon Washington area

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yeah Portland Yeah right your neck of

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the woods Maureen right yeah so that was

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the where they were intercepted Scranton

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they were trying to scramble

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yeah f-15s the 15s and I mean they did

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they had multiple commercial aircraft in

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the sky and this we're talking about

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something that happened

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17 now this was in October 2017 but but

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similar situation where ground crew was

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working with commercial aircraft in the

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sky to try to figure out what this thing

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was because commercial aircraft were

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spotting this UFO flying over Portland

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and these planes were seeing it but the

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ground people they had it on radar

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momentarily but didn't have it fighter

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jets were scrambled fighter jets got up

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00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:30,889
there they couldn't find the thing and

544
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:34,159
again thanks to Tyler rogue way I mean

545
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,360
all of this stuff is is available on FAA

546
00:23:43,509 --> 00:23:39,440
recording so you can listen to the

547
00:23:45,159 --> 00:23:43,519
entire sort of chaotic moments on on on

548
00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:45,169
this recording and hear the

549
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:46,580
conversations they're having trying to

550
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:49,279
figure out what this object is trying to

551
00:23:53,889 --> 00:23:51,110
you know figure out they should scramble

552
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:53,899
fighters trying to figure out what the

553
00:23:58,779 --> 00:23:55,970
procedure is when this stuff happens

554
00:24:00,580 --> 00:23:58,789
okay 31 and for act number one sometimes

555
00:24:02,980 --> 00:24:00,590
early mess level four three so wrong way

556
00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:02,990
that's for your face you know targets

557
00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:05,750
off the body though that 0 0 to 7 code

558
00:24:12,730 --> 00:24:09,049
moving very fast at 37,000 oh look at

559
00:24:14,620 --> 00:24:12,740
that thing yeah that's crazy

560
00:24:18,879 --> 00:24:14,630
and you don't have anything on him I got

561
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:18,889
nothing well well look now West Jeff

562
00:24:26,529 --> 00:24:21,919
1698 is about he is at three seven zero

563
00:24:29,950 --> 00:24:26,539
and that dude is a hundred and fifty

564
00:24:31,299 --> 00:24:29,960
miles to the north of him I see him up

565
00:24:34,090 --> 00:24:31,309
there that's so that's crazy that's

566
00:24:38,669 --> 00:24:34,100
alright I'll report that thanks ed okay

567
00:24:42,490 --> 00:24:38,679
Oakland 31 or 36 well I mean this is

568
00:24:45,879 --> 00:24:42,500
sector 36 if we had a target comes our

569
00:24:48,490 --> 00:24:45,889
airspace going really fast at level

570
00:24:51,820 --> 00:24:48,500
three sevens earlier an intruder mode C

571
00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:51,830
intruder going southbound and then now

572
00:24:58,090 --> 00:24:54,950
apparently the Southwest 4712

573
00:25:00,190 --> 00:24:58,100
these and aircrafts off his right side

574
00:25:02,649 --> 00:25:00,200
about as one o'clock in ten miles going

575
00:25:04,539 --> 00:25:02,659
northbound at three seven zero we don't

576
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:04,549
have anything on radar anymore or

577
00:25:10,990 --> 00:25:09,049
anything like that okay yeah it's not my

578
00:25:13,409 --> 00:25:11,000
primary zone I don't and we don't see

579
00:25:16,370 --> 00:25:13,419
any primaries or anything there I will

580
00:25:18,919 --> 00:25:16,380
okay yeah that's alright you know

581
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:18,929
our supervisors are calling all the

582
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:22,650
appropriate people stuff and if you have

583
00:25:26,690 --> 00:25:24,330
any idea what kind of craft it is now

584
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:26,700
I've asked them and he doesn't he said

585
00:25:31,039 --> 00:25:28,410
it's about his one to two o'clock and

586
00:25:32,930 --> 00:25:31,049
ten miles off is right side now okay

587
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:32,940
thing like they have no idea what's

588
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:34,890
going on and that's really freaky they

589
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:36,090
don't they don't know what to do and a

590
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:38,130
similar thing happened in Arizona like

591
00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:40,970
yeah they knew that they had this

592
00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:43,950
unidentified craft but they couldn't

593
00:25:48,350 --> 00:25:45,390
find it they couldn't figure out what it

594
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:48,360
was one thing I want to add to that you

595
00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:50,730
know just reading the articles you know

596
00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:52,799
every time a pilot or somebody with

597
00:25:57,470 --> 00:25:55,860
aviation experience has a sighting the

598
00:25:59,270 --> 00:25:57,480
stories tend to when more credibility

599
00:26:01,070 --> 00:25:59,280
just because of their experience so

600
00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:01,080
those stories you know like once again

601
00:26:02,779 --> 00:26:02,190
it's easier for those getting the

602
00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:02,789
mainstream's

603
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:04,440
you know as opposed like the average Joe

604
00:26:07,970 --> 00:26:06,809
sing one so you know reading the

605
00:26:10,370 --> 00:26:07,980
articles you know they obviously have to

606
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:10,380
have quotes from the witnesses the piles

607
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,480
themselves and any good article needs to

608
00:26:15,470 --> 00:26:13,919
have both sides and you know usually you

609
00:26:17,690 --> 00:26:15,480
said they'll interview a scientist but

610
00:26:18,980 --> 00:26:17,700
usually you know the problem with it

611
00:26:20,990 --> 00:26:18,990
being a one-and-done story without a

612
00:26:23,090 --> 00:26:21,000
follow-up is the sciences is basically

613
00:26:24,649 --> 00:26:23,100
giving just an opinion and a lot of

614
00:26:26,659 --> 00:26:24,659
things I read on the juries and stories

615
00:26:28,370 --> 00:26:26,669
were oh it's probably a meteorite or

616
00:26:30,649 --> 00:26:28,380
it's probably this but there's no really

617
00:26:32,539 --> 00:26:30,659
investigation then it's dropped and you

618
00:26:34,730 --> 00:26:32,549
know a lot of the websites are doing

619
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:34,740
these cute little sub heads or is it a

620
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:36,510
weather balloon like you know the same

621
00:26:39,140 --> 00:26:37,679
they're bringing those same old jokes

622
00:26:41,090 --> 00:26:39,150
out again

623
00:26:43,010 --> 00:26:41,100
so the fact that like I said that it's

624
00:26:45,529 --> 00:26:43,020
being reported by you know these people

625
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:45,539
with aviation experience I think that's

626
00:26:49,310 --> 00:26:47,460
a good thing because it's you know these

627
00:26:51,649 --> 00:26:49,320
stories are creeping more into the

628
00:26:54,220 --> 00:26:51,659
mainstream just because of you know

629
00:26:57,380 --> 00:26:54,230
their credentials and I will say that

630
00:27:00,169 --> 00:26:57,390
the reason that I highly recommend and

631
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:00,179
do pay attention to the work that Tyler

632
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:03,090
rug away does on these stories is he he

633
00:27:08,270 --> 00:27:04,770
brings a unique perspective he

634
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:08,280
specializes in military aviation so he

635
00:27:12,740 --> 00:27:09,840
looks at this from a curiosity

636
00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:12,750
standpoint you know being very he's a

637
00:27:19,130 --> 00:27:16,169
he's a well-read individual very very

638
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:19,140
much knowledgeable about technology and

639
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:21,090
craft that the military has in

640
00:27:26,390 --> 00:27:23,490
development and follows these things

641
00:27:29,419 --> 00:27:26,400
closely so when he hears about something

642
00:27:30,510 --> 00:27:29,429
that doesn't fit anything that he's

643
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:30,520
following at all

644
00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:35,440
hee hee homes on that and wants to use

645
00:27:39,270 --> 00:27:37,630
every resource available to try to find

646
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:39,280
more information about it to possibly

647
00:27:43,890 --> 00:27:41,530
say oh yeah that could be this this

648
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:43,900
secret thing we've been hinted that then

649
00:27:48,690 --> 00:27:47,110
he is working on and that was those

650
00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:48,700
answers and those things don't don't

651
00:27:52,890 --> 00:27:50,950
align then he gets really excited and

652
00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:52,900
tries to follow up and I just really

653
00:27:57,780 --> 00:27:55,630
love his work he has connections and

654
00:28:01,230 --> 00:27:57,790
resources that a lot of us don't have in

655
00:28:03,870 --> 00:28:01,240
sort of the the outside journalism world

656
00:28:06,570 --> 00:28:03,880
so I really look forward to more stuff

657
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:06,580
to come from him I know at least for me

658
00:28:10,650 --> 00:28:08,710
he's going to be my UFO researcher of

659
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:10,660
the year that's for damn sure

660
00:28:17,130 --> 00:28:13,930
but moving a little away from UFOs guys

661
00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:17,140
and to the possibility of alien life we

662
00:28:22,380 --> 00:28:19,660
had some really like groundbreaking

663
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:22,390
stuff happened this past year late 2017

664
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:25,450
early 2018 and for the first time in

665
00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:27,970
history scientists have detected the

666
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:30,790
first interstellar object ever observed

667
00:28:35,820 --> 00:28:34,480
now this is amazing in my opinion we're

668
00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:35,830
talking about oh mooie-mooie

669
00:28:40,410 --> 00:28:37,590
avi Loeb chair of the Harvard University

670
00:28:42,510 --> 00:28:40,420
astronomy department said oh mooie-mooie

671
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:42,520
did not behave like an ordinary asteroid

672
00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:44,950
or give off gas like a comet there

673
00:28:49,170 --> 00:28:46,870
seemed to be an extra force that is

674
00:28:52,590 --> 00:28:49,180
pushing it and it's not clear what this

675
00:28:54,510 --> 00:28:52,600
push is from in an upcoming paper he and

676
00:28:57,390 --> 00:28:54,520
a colleague offer what they call a more

677
00:28:59,640 --> 00:28:57,400
exotic scenario Oh mwah mwah maybe a

678
00:29:01,830 --> 00:28:59,650
fully operational probe sent

679
00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:01,840
intentionally to earth vicinity by an

680
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:03,820
alien civilization this thing kind of

681
00:29:07,290 --> 00:29:06,010
made a comeback when Harvard scientists

682
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:07,300
wrote a paper about it

683
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:10,810
claiming that it could be aliens now I

684
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,130
know that's you know that's a very

685
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:14,080
hypothetical thing and of course every

686
00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:16,480
news outlet grapples onto that one

687
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:19,990
little quote that they say but um very

688
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:22,720
fascinating this huge elongated object

689
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:25,120
that came into our solar system hung out

690
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:27,130
for a little bit and made some really

691
00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:30,370
odd maneuvers and took off we'll

692
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:31,870
probably never see it again but who

693
00:29:36,270 --> 00:29:33,730
knows but what do you guys make up the

694
00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:36,280
whole Oh mu a mu uh incident where do

695
00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:41,980
you all stand on this thing it's hard to

696
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:43,960
say I mean because you know there

697
00:29:49,530 --> 00:29:46,330
our there's some research to suggest

698
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:49,540
that the kind of movement it had could

699
00:29:56,610 --> 00:29:53,170
be similar to resulting from gases from

700
00:29:58,830 --> 00:29:56,620
a comet but could it be an alien probe

701
00:30:01,890 --> 00:29:58,840
well we can't really say it couldn't be

702
00:30:03,390 --> 00:30:01,900
because we can't see it anymore and we

703
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:03,400
didn't get a good enough look at it

704
00:30:07,740 --> 00:30:06,130
so maybe but I think it's more

705
00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:07,750
fascinating you know that this is the

706
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:09,190
first object we've spotted from

707
00:30:15,450 --> 00:30:12,910
interstellar space and that they believe

708
00:30:18,170 --> 00:30:15,460
that there's at least four other objects

709
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:18,180
that could be of interstellar origin

710
00:30:25,050 --> 00:30:22,690
currently bouncing around that you know

711
00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:25,060
could be hiding amongst all the the

712
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:28,510
other space debris and I don't know it's

713
00:30:32,940 --> 00:30:30,370
it's kind of fascinating or they're just

714
00:30:37,530 --> 00:30:32,950
a bunch of like creepy alien drones

715
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:37,540
hanging out in our solar system it's not

716
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:39,910
that far-fetched I mean we say probes to

717
00:30:45,270 --> 00:30:42,640
other planets granted within our own

718
00:30:47,310 --> 00:30:45,280
solar system but but just look at Star

719
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:47,320
Trek I mean yes it's science fiction but

720
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:49,570
is it really that far-fetched to think

721
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:52,270
that we could advance to that in the

722
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:55,510
relatively near future right I mean we

723
00:31:00,240 --> 00:30:57,310
just had we just had one of our objects

724
00:31:01,410 --> 00:31:00,250
go interstellar right so yeah I mean you

725
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:01,420
make a great point Ryan

726
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:04,240
I mean extraterrestrials aside this is

727
00:31:09,930 --> 00:31:07,810
huge news extremely exciting I mean

728
00:31:11,790 --> 00:31:09,940
big-time stuff is happening in space all

729
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:11,800
the time now and we do live in science

730
00:31:17,370 --> 00:31:14,370
fiction times and it's super exciting so

731
00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:17,380
removing the alien possibility it's

732
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:20,440
exciting on its on its own but yeah I

733
00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:22,510
think responsible journalists and

734
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:24,550
responsible scientists certainly take

735
00:31:29,340 --> 00:31:26,650
note of this and see the unusual

736
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:29,350
behaviors and certainly considering all

737
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:31,330
of the unknowns that exists with this

738
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:34,000
thing you can't rule out the possibility

739
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:38,530
that this is something you know that has

740
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:41,370
an extraterrestrial an intelligent

741
00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:44,050
extraterrestrial component to it that

742
00:31:48,090 --> 00:31:45,940
doesn't mean we're saying that it is but

743
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:48,100
being a responsible scientist and not

744
00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:50,050
having all the answers you do need to

745
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:51,670
keep an open mind and you do have to

746
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:53,050
weigh all the possibilities and that's

747
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,730
certainly a possibility coming from a

748
00:31:56,649 --> 00:31:56,080
media standpoint you know it's

749
00:31:58,299 --> 00:31:56,659
interesting

750
00:31:59,259 --> 00:31:58,309
how you know around you made that joke

751
00:32:01,779 --> 00:31:59,269
you know they're playing in the

752
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:01,789
headlines you know the alien aspect of

753
00:32:06,999 --> 00:32:03,289
it and I don't know if that's just kind

754
00:32:09,159 --> 00:32:07,009
of more a telling sign of how the media

755
00:32:10,899 --> 00:32:09,169
is more quick baby nowadays or just the

756
00:32:12,399 --> 00:32:10,909
fact that they're more open to running

757
00:32:14,139 --> 00:32:12,409
headlines like that in general

758
00:32:16,810 --> 00:32:14,149
that that's where they pull from that

759
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:16,820
the fact that NASA centers are saying it

760
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:19,970
could be aliens so either way you look

761
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:21,950
at it I think you know you have this you

762
00:32:24,399 --> 00:32:23,090
know then potentially trying to

763
00:32:25,930 --> 00:32:24,409
sensationalize a little bit by running

764
00:32:27,789 --> 00:32:25,940
out in the head wine but also that's

765
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:27,799
kind of the news too because you know

766
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:29,690
maybe 20 years ago NASA scientists would

767
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:32,210
have been so open to even state that

768
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:33,769
claim so I think it's fascinating how

769
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:36,409
it's been played out well in what's even

770
00:32:40,509 --> 00:32:38,090
more exciting too is because of this

771
00:32:42,849 --> 00:32:40,519
object they're building another

772
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:42,859
telescope in Chile once it's completed

773
00:32:46,210 --> 00:32:44,330
they're gonna use it to search for

774
00:32:48,129 --> 00:32:46,220
similar objects like you said Maureen

775
00:32:51,330 --> 00:32:48,139
there are possibly other objects out

776
00:32:54,219 --> 00:32:51,340
there like this so now it's pushing

777
00:32:56,259 --> 00:32:54,229
scientists to fund these telescopes to

778
00:32:58,330 --> 00:32:56,269
look for more of them and you can't ask

779
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,340
for more than that and you can't ask for

780
00:33:02,289 --> 00:33:00,080
more than all of these scientists

781
00:33:04,479 --> 00:33:02,299
writing new papers arguing comet

782
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:04,489
asteroid something other than that it

783
00:33:08,019 --> 00:33:06,289
just keeps going and going and the fact

784
00:33:10,659 --> 00:33:08,029
that we don't have a clear answer yet of

785
00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:10,669
what this thing was that's actually

786
00:33:15,639 --> 00:33:12,950
exciting than giving an answer I think

787
00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:15,649
that unknown is what keeps us going and

788
00:33:20,109 --> 00:33:18,440
I think that's buried 100% yes yeah and

789
00:33:22,570 --> 00:33:20,119
Jason thanks for reminding me that

790
00:33:25,690 --> 00:33:22,580
Voyager 1 finally entered interstellar

791
00:33:29,589 --> 00:33:25,700
space this year totally forgot about

792
00:33:31,810 --> 00:33:29,599
that somehow but I think fascinating to

793
00:33:34,089 --> 00:33:31,820
think about too because on the other end

794
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:34,099
let's say that intelligent planets out

795
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:36,049
there and now they're possibly being

796
00:33:43,659 --> 00:33:39,440
exposed to their headlines and stuff

797
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:43,669
from the seventies yeah that's a good

798
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:45,529
point and you know we just landed on

799
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:48,529
Mars again it's just it's so cool guys I

800
00:33:52,930 --> 00:33:50,809
think we're we're on the cusp of some

801
00:33:55,330 --> 00:33:52,940
really interesting scientific

802
00:33:56,889 --> 00:33:55,340
developments in terms of alien life and

803
00:33:57,820 --> 00:33:56,899
China is getting ready to land on the

804
00:34:01,539 --> 00:33:57,830
dark side of the moon

805
00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:01,549
boom all those conspiracies will now be

806
00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:03,070
solved I love it

807
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:06,160
well here's another one to guys silvano

808
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:09,610
p : bono of nasa's intelligent systems

809
00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:12,130
division recently wrote a research paper

810
00:34:18,060 --> 00:34:15,100
about extraterrestrials and he wants to

811
00:34:20,190 --> 00:34:18,070
keep people informed that you know

812
00:34:22,140 --> 00:34:20,200
aliens they may look different than what

813
00:34:24,690 --> 00:34:22,150
we expect and may be able to travel huge

814
00:34:26,430 --> 00:34:24,700
distances that's the biggest argument

815
00:34:28,919 --> 00:34:26,440
whenever any of us get asked you know

816
00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:28,929
how could aliens travel all this all

817
00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:31,480
this time in space there's no way they

818
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:33,550
could ever get here this guy's being

819
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:36,250
like you know chill out guys we have no

820
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:38,290
idea what they're capable of what their

821
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:40,960
makeup is we always go by what humans

822
00:34:45,690 --> 00:34:43,330
can do what our limitations are so I

823
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:45,700
thought this is really cool that another

824
00:34:50,490 --> 00:34:48,610
NASA scientist is putting himself out

825
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:50,500
there and saying this the headline is

826
00:34:55,770 --> 00:34:50,950
tiny

827
00:34:58,500 --> 00:34:55,780
aliens may have visited us and we just

828
00:35:01,080 --> 00:34:58,510
didn't know that's pretty cool it's

829
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:01,090
super cool this was fantastic to read

830
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:03,370
and again I applaud this guy because

831
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:05,950
this is a responsible scientist in my

832
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:08,650
opinion he's keeping his mind open and

833
00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:11,320
exploring all possibilities and when

834
00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:12,880
we're dealing with something as strange

835
00:35:18,780 --> 00:35:16,270
and unknown as extraterrestrial life yes

836
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:18,790
we have life as we know it as our

837
00:35:24,450 --> 00:35:20,710
baseline and in what we're we're working

838
00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:24,460
on we're working from but in the end we

839
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:26,200
really don't know I mean the

840
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:29,370
possibilities are endless so we have to

841
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:32,410
understand what we're working with with

842
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:34,720
our tool set but also understand it

843
00:35:41,310 --> 00:35:38,170
could be is so much bigger than that

844
00:35:44,070 --> 00:35:41,320
so I love that from that standpoint but

845
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:44,080
this wants so many ridiculous headlines

846
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:46,570
you know as all of these stories do

847
00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:49,450
because NASA scientists as aliens have

848
00:35:54,810 --> 00:35:51,790
already been here and all this stuff and

849
00:35:57,290 --> 00:35:54,820
I love that he's many times over said

850
00:36:00,000 --> 00:35:57,300
look all I was saying is we need to

851
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:00,010
consider the possibilities not saying

852
00:36:01,710 --> 00:36:01,330
they've been here they may have been

853
00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:01,720
here

854
00:36:09,570 --> 00:36:07,540
guys we're gonna move on to to probably

855
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:09,580
the bulk of our conversation here's

856
00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:12,070
something we are all familiar with the

857
00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:14,200
date of recording this is Thursday

858
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:16,780
December 13th and it is mr. Tom doe

859
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:19,330
his birthday so happy birthday Tom

860
00:36:26,610 --> 00:36:24,310
DeLonge happy birthday Tom I saw the the

861
00:36:28,650 --> 00:36:26,620
past interview with Tom DeLonge vtrene

862
00:36:31,260 --> 00:36:28,660
Maureen and Jason making the rounds

863
00:36:34,410 --> 00:36:31,270
today so that was really cool to see all

864
00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:34,420
of this stuff pre to the stars Academy

865
00:36:37,890 --> 00:36:36,100
well Tom I've been excited to talk to

866
00:36:39,450 --> 00:36:37,900
you about UFOs you've you've always been

867
00:36:42,570 --> 00:36:39,460
vocal about your interest in the subject

868
00:36:43,980 --> 00:36:42,580
right and you know it's interesting I

869
00:36:46,590 --> 00:36:43,990
don't think a lot of people understand

870
00:36:49,110 --> 00:36:46,600
that you've researched a subject for

871
00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:49,120
more than twenty years yeah and that's a

872
00:36:53,220 --> 00:36:51,910
lot more it's a longer time period than

873
00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:53,230
a lot of the leading researchers in the

874
00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:54,760
field right now a lot of researchers

875
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:57,190
tend to dive into one area of it that's

876
00:37:00,930 --> 00:36:58,690
very hardcore you know hey I'm gonna

877
00:37:02,130 --> 00:37:00,940
write a book about Roswell or someone

878
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:02,140
else comes in and says I'm gonna write a

879
00:37:07,020 --> 00:37:04,090
book just about you know majestic 12

880
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:07,030
documents you know and I've I'm the kind

881
00:37:11,550 --> 00:37:09,610
of guy that you know I'm pretty broad

882
00:37:13,850 --> 00:37:11,560
about all the subjects I've gone deep on

883
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:13,860
a lot of them but I've kind of surpassed

884
00:37:18,780 --> 00:37:16,330
the the icing on the cake and now I'm

885
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:18,790
kind of digging down into you know the

886
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:20,350
main ingredients of the cake you know

887
00:37:24,330 --> 00:37:22,210
but what would initially sparked your

888
00:37:25,890 --> 00:37:24,340
interest in the subject I one of my

889
00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:25,900
first memories is being a seventh grade

890
00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:28,150
where I was walking I had like an hour

891
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:30,190
in junior high is like the first you

892
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:32,260
know school kind of system in junior

893
00:37:36,090 --> 00:37:33,910
high level where you get to walk between

894
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:36,100
classes so you have a few minutes I for

895
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:38,050
some reason had more than a few minutes

896
00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:39,970
so I had to go to the library and I was

897
00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:41,140
walking in his library and I didn't read

898
00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:42,580
books at all then you know in school I

899
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:44,020
was like books who wants three books you

900
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:45,190
know I'm gonna skateboarding and stuff

901
00:37:47,970 --> 00:37:46,480
so I'm like well if have to read a book

902
00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:47,980
right now I want to really like any

903
00:37:52,290 --> 00:37:50,230
weird like UFO books and I don't even

904
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:52,300
know why that came to my attention it

905
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:54,190
was so odd because that's and all I

906
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:55,510
found was a book that had something

907
00:37:59,250 --> 00:37:57,250
about one UFO and the Loch Ness monster

908
00:38:01,350 --> 00:37:59,260
but either way it was cool and it was in

909
00:38:03,210 --> 00:38:01,360
my school library and from that moment

910
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:03,220
forward it really sparked my interest

911
00:38:06,780 --> 00:38:05,350
but it kind of there's a gap there until

912
00:38:09,150 --> 00:38:06,790
I was able to actually afford to buy a

913
00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:09,160
computer so computers were really

914
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:12,700
happening when I was 20 and 21 that's

915
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:14,650
like the beginning of the 90s like BAM

916
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:16,510
things are happening with computers so I

917
00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:18,880
signed a record contract and got my

918
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:20,350
first paycheck and the very first thing

919
00:38:23,790 --> 00:38:21,850
I did was I went out I bought this

920
00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:23,800
shitty like compact computer or

921
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:26,740
something and I brought it home signed

922
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:29,450
on and I think I just typed in like you

923
00:38:33,849 --> 00:38:31,910
photos or something or area51 I don't

924
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:33,859
even know there's the common term but

925
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:36,050
now we are in the thick of it guys it's

926
00:38:41,380 --> 00:38:38,510
been over a year since this thing took

927
00:38:45,220 --> 00:38:41,390
shape and since the New York Times story

928
00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:45,230
broke and we've had some interesting and

929
00:38:49,690 --> 00:38:47,990
not so interesting developments probably

930
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:49,700
the biggest ones is the atom research

931
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:51,770
project the acquisition and data

932
00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:54,560
analysis of materials very controversial

933
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:57,079
project going on over to the Stars but

934
00:39:02,260 --> 00:38:59,839
where do we stand now guys you know it's

935
00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:02,270
been almost a year they wanted to raise

936
00:39:06,579 --> 00:39:04,520
around 50 million dollars for this

937
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:06,589
project don't think they quite made it

938
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:09,710
to that but it's been a heated debate

939
00:39:14,290 --> 00:39:12,170
within the UFO community for about a

940
00:39:17,470 --> 00:39:14,300
year now so let's lay it all out there

941
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:17,480
guys where do you stand now and what can

942
00:39:21,250 --> 00:39:18,950
we expect from to the Stars in the

943
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:21,260
future Mike let's start with you I think

944
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:23,450
there's more optimism I think then last

945
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:24,770
year I think there's more stuff to look

946
00:39:28,839 --> 00:39:27,200
forward to than this year the fact that

947
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:28,849
you can machines documentary it's

948
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:30,530
apparently finally coming out rumored

949
00:39:34,089 --> 00:39:32,480
movie deal and in the terms on the

950
00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:34,099
research side of it I know it's gonna be

951
00:39:38,530 --> 00:39:36,470
a divisive either way but I mean they're

952
00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:38,540
slowly getting stuff down there they're

953
00:39:41,859 --> 00:39:40,550
getting to the ball rolling and you know

954
00:39:43,329 --> 00:39:41,869
it's just from you know reading on all

955
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:43,339
the Facebook message boards and you know

956
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:46,010
there's always opposition with with this

957
00:39:49,390 --> 00:39:47,450
topic but you know they're actually

958
00:39:51,069 --> 00:39:49,400
getting people talking and you know

959
00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:51,079
again I think I said last year if that's

960
00:39:53,319 --> 00:39:52,430
the worst thing that happened I mean if

961
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:53,329
that's the biggest thing that happened

962
00:39:57,609 --> 00:39:56,089
last year was getting you know this this

963
00:39:59,170 --> 00:39:57,619
mainstream press and getting people

964
00:40:01,180 --> 00:39:59,180
talking about the topic in a serious

965
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:01,190
manner and being more open-minded terms

966
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:02,450
of research than great but I think

967
00:40:07,059 --> 00:40:05,150
they're taking a step further and a lot

968
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:07,069
of the credibility questions that kind

969
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:08,569
of hamper them previously I think

970
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:11,210
there's there's less of those yeah I

971
00:40:14,109 --> 00:40:12,290
think there's less of those going

972
00:40:15,730 --> 00:40:14,119
forward so I think 2019 is gonna be an

973
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:15,740
interesting year and I just think people

974
00:40:20,020 --> 00:40:17,210
need be patient I think we said that

975
00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:20,030
last year too and you know these things

976
00:40:24,940 --> 00:40:22,280
take time even somebody with with Tom

977
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:24,950
celebrity status to him you know these

978
00:40:28,059 --> 00:40:26,390
things take time it's not like he could

979
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:28,069
just you know what you know write a

980
00:40:31,450 --> 00:40:29,990
check and boom we have disclosure the

981
00:40:33,550 --> 00:40:31,460
next day it's that's not how things work

982
00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:33,560
especially with such a sensitive topic

983
00:40:38,829 --> 00:40:35,839
so they said I think you know things are

984
00:40:40,180 --> 00:40:38,839
slowly rolling out and obviously it's

985
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:40,190
not Romy out fast enough for some people

986
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:42,890
the affair UFO community but

987
00:40:45,789 --> 00:40:44,210
I mean I don't they're not doing it for

988
00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:45,799
them they're doing it you know for

989
00:40:49,450 --> 00:40:47,750
everyone so I think you know people

990
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:49,460
continue to beat me to be patient and

991
00:40:52,390 --> 00:40:51,049
just see where it goes you know like I

992
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:52,400
said it you know people are obviously

993
00:40:57,700 --> 00:40:55,250
gonna jump you know the the fiction

994
00:40:58,990 --> 00:40:57,710
stuff that to the Stars is interested in

995
00:41:00,940 --> 00:40:59,000
doing you know so first thing people

996
00:41:02,650 --> 00:41:00,950
jump that and kind of poke poke at and

997
00:41:05,230 --> 00:41:02,660
say is this where my investment money's

998
00:41:07,329 --> 00:41:05,240
going no I mean obviously not I mean

999
00:41:08,620 --> 00:41:07,339
it's common sense that there's

1000
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:08,630
production companies that are backing

1001
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:10,910
this you know those projects but yeah

1002
00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:12,650
obviously that's the first thing that

1003
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:14,240
people will go to you kind of detract

1004
00:41:18,460 --> 00:41:16,640
from it but at the same time you know we

1005
00:41:20,799 --> 00:41:18,470
have the Adams project we have material

1006
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:20,809
that's apparently you know as you know

1007
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:21,920
passed through earth earth Tech

1008
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:23,569
International which isn't too far for me

1009
00:41:29,769 --> 00:41:28,010
in Texas so you know they're doing

1010
00:41:31,809 --> 00:41:29,779
things so I think people should continue

1011
00:41:32,140 --> 00:41:31,819
to be patient and see where goes from

1012
00:41:34,690 --> 00:41:32,150
there

1013
00:41:37,390 --> 00:41:34,700
we have multiple samples now from

1014
00:41:42,670 --> 00:41:37,400
multiple sources ranging a wide variety

1015
00:41:45,490 --> 00:41:42,680
of integrity even if the material goes

1016
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:45,500
nowhere people are beginning to provide

1017
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:48,049
us things I want to make sure that I

1018
00:41:51,549 --> 00:41:49,730
have a healthy dose of skepticism to

1019
00:41:53,259 --> 00:41:51,559
make sure I'm not blindly accepting

1020
00:41:55,870 --> 00:41:53,269
something because it's cool or neat or

1021
00:41:58,180 --> 00:41:55,880
new or something like that but the data

1022
00:41:59,920 --> 00:41:58,190
supports the decisions that we make the

1023
00:42:02,829 --> 00:41:59,930
dots that we connect the moves that we

1024
00:42:06,670 --> 00:42:02,839
made but I see it diligence being

1025
00:42:09,339 --> 00:42:06,680
applied to this it gives me optimism

1026
00:42:12,339 --> 00:42:09,349
then we stand a chance of being able to

1027
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:12,349
make some real progress here we have to

1028
00:42:16,359 --> 00:42:15,170
do this the right way and the right way

1029
00:42:18,759 --> 00:42:16,369
is it necessary

1030
00:42:20,739 --> 00:42:18,769
right now way you know we may just be at

1031
00:42:22,420 --> 00:42:20,749
the beginning of the headwaters maybe

1032
00:42:24,370 --> 00:42:22,430
this we're just enough in a stream right

1033
00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:24,380
now and we're just at the very beginning

1034
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:26,390
and it's just a small Creek but I think

1035
00:42:31,089 --> 00:42:28,930
eventually that waterfall will come

1036
00:42:34,749 --> 00:42:31,099
marine what do you think about all this

1037
00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:34,759
personally for me I think that there are

1038
00:42:40,180 --> 00:42:37,670
good and obviously like Mike said it's

1039
00:42:41,950 --> 00:42:40,190
been very divisive and bad things that

1040
00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:41,960
are coming out of this and it is

1041
00:42:46,930 --> 00:42:44,390
creating this incredible amount of

1042
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:46,940
impatience with people I think the

1043
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:48,890
better way to go about this is to have

1044
00:42:54,370 --> 00:42:51,890
zero expectations and then when they're

1045
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:54,380
able to release whatever they can when

1046
00:42:58,930 --> 00:42:57,200
they can you know we might find out that

1047
00:43:01,359 --> 00:42:58,940
all the testing they're doing through

1048
00:43:05,170 --> 00:43:01,369
this atom project ends up being nothing

1049
00:43:07,749 --> 00:43:05,180
interesting or has an explanation or it

1050
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:07,759
may be something that you know piques

1051
00:43:13,059 --> 00:43:10,490
people's interest and if we finally get

1052
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:13,069
any results or trickled information

1053
00:43:16,450 --> 00:43:14,960
about this it's probably likely

1054
00:43:18,299 --> 00:43:16,460
something that would require more

1055
00:43:20,859 --> 00:43:18,309
testing and more testing because I

1056
00:43:24,130 --> 00:43:20,869
guarantee you they're not gonna come

1057
00:43:26,019 --> 00:43:24,140
let's say they test a piece of metal

1058
00:43:28,749 --> 00:43:26,029
that they believe to be of

1059
00:43:31,390 --> 00:43:28,759
extraterrestrial origin and they it

1060
00:43:33,849 --> 00:43:31,400
comes back an anomaly saying this is not

1061
00:43:37,059 --> 00:43:33,859
as some people have said manufactured on

1062
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:37,069
earth this is from somewhere else it is

1063
00:43:42,430 --> 00:43:39,950
not naturally occurring here you are

1064
00:43:43,930 --> 00:43:42,440
make of what you will I guarantee you

1065
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:43,940
not everyone's gonna be like oh that's

1066
00:43:48,249 --> 00:43:46,880
disclosure aliens exist problem solved

1067
00:43:50,529 --> 00:43:48,259
that's not going to be the way it works

1068
00:43:52,809 --> 00:43:50,539
so yes there's a lot of different facets

1069
00:43:55,779 --> 00:43:52,819
of what's happening with to the Stars

1070
00:43:58,509 --> 00:43:55,789
there's a lot of entertainment aspects

1071
00:44:01,420 --> 00:43:58,519
but again like Mike said the big thing

1072
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:01,430
is getting a lot of positive press and

1073
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:04,609
getting a lot more people to take this

1074
00:44:09,549 --> 00:44:06,529
subject a little more seriously and

1075
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:09,559
realize that the government is involved

1076
00:44:13,690 --> 00:44:12,049
in this and there's other things going

1077
00:44:16,839 --> 00:44:13,700
on behind the scenes that we're not

1078
00:44:18,940 --> 00:44:16,849
aware of it this is a big picture and I

1079
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:18,950
believe it will continue to be so one

1080
00:44:22,539 --> 00:44:20,690
thing I want to add I think Jason Kidd

1081
00:44:24,130 --> 00:44:22,549
kind of pile onto this - Jason could

1082
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:24,140
attest to this I think you're a previous

1083
00:44:28,180 --> 00:44:25,910
suggestion you know your time is you

1084
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:28,190
know we're to the stars and they're

1085
00:44:31,180 --> 00:44:29,450
starting out and

1086
00:44:33,340 --> 00:44:31,190
I've interviewed Tom and met him before

1087
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:33,350
as well so like we kind of thought about

1088
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:37,250
this but Tom is best when he's not fully

1089
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:38,990
in charge he does his best work when

1090
00:44:42,940 --> 00:44:41,090
he's collaborating but he's not left to

1091
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:42,950
his own devices and I'm not just talking

1092
00:44:45,970 --> 00:44:44,090
about musically I'm just talking about

1093
00:44:47,710 --> 00:44:45,980
in general and having something so

1094
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:47,720
controlled like this I think it's a good

1095
00:44:51,310 --> 00:44:49,130
thing see he's not rushing to get

1096
00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:51,320
somehow everything is taking its time

1097
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:53,150
this is the first time in his career in

1098
00:44:57,130 --> 00:44:54,410
a long long time that we've actually

1099
00:44:59,890 --> 00:44:57,140
seen something like this where he's

1100
00:45:03,010 --> 00:44:59,900
doing the the due diligence and things

1101
00:45:04,510 --> 00:45:03,020
are coming out organically you know and

1102
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:04,520
it's he's taking his time

1103
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:06,530
I think you know having these these

1104
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:08,720
control mechanisms above them is only

1105
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:11,330
going to make for better quality in

1106
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:14,510
terms of the documentaries the the

1107
00:45:18,490 --> 00:45:16,970
fiction feature films and the research

1108
00:45:19,870 --> 00:45:18,500
in general so I think this is a good

1109
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:19,880
thing that you know things are kind of

1110
00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:21,680
taking time and one thing I wanna say

1111
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:24,440
add to a murine said you know you say

1112
00:45:28,660 --> 00:45:26,330
like say if they if something comes back

1113
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:28,670
that they discover and what if it's not

1114
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:31,610
you know if they said oh this is just a

1115
00:45:35,950 --> 00:45:33,920
piece of metal you know to the stars are

1116
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:35,960
gonna get just ripped up by its

1117
00:45:39,970 --> 00:45:37,010
detractors so something really

1118
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:39,980
interesting to see you know how much

1119
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,560
leeway they get in terms of the reaction

1120
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:44,480
from the public I wonder I wonder if

1121
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:47,330
that's the case if they just kind of

1122
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:49,730
avoid it for years at a time until

1123
00:45:53,770 --> 00:45:51,200
everyone forgets about it and never

1124
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:53,780
announced anything at all just so they

1125
00:45:59,290 --> 00:45:56,240
don't face that public backlash yeah

1126
00:46:01,630 --> 00:45:59,300
yeah I mean that's what you said Mike -

1127
00:46:04,030 --> 00:46:01,640
about how slow things have been Jason

1128
00:46:08,110 --> 00:46:04,040
and I first started talking to Tom about

1129
00:46:10,540 --> 00:46:08,120
to the stars back in 2014 when we

1130
00:46:14,050 --> 00:46:10,550
started working for him at the initial

1131
00:46:17,230 --> 00:46:14,060
launch of to the stars media and he had

1132
00:46:19,660 --> 00:46:17,240
plans to expand this into something

1133
00:46:22,270 --> 00:46:19,670
bigger but at that time he didn't really

1134
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:22,280
know what yet you know so it's very

1135
00:46:27,220 --> 00:46:24,650
interesting to see how it it started off

1136
00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:27,230
with like rhonchi paranormal news that

1137
00:46:33,130 --> 00:46:29,630
we were writing and has become just a

1138
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:33,140
huge franchise of media and now a more

1139
00:46:39,310 --> 00:46:36,530
serious scientific research so what's

1140
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:39,320
next I'm excited to see at least but I

1141
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:42,170
am going in with again zero expectations

1142
00:46:45,630 --> 00:46:42,910
so I

1143
00:46:50,490 --> 00:46:45,640
see a lot of parallels with to the stars

1144
00:46:53,099 --> 00:46:50,500
and open minds open minds was a company

1145
00:46:55,890 --> 00:46:53,109
that Maureen and I helped start that was

1146
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:55,900
a UFO media organization that was the

1147
00:47:02,339 --> 00:46:59,440
only type of company like it at the time

1148
00:47:05,099 --> 00:47:02,349
which is what to the Stars essentially

1149
00:47:06,809 --> 00:47:05,109
is now you know we had a wealthy

1150
00:47:09,990 --> 00:47:06,819
individual who was interested in UFOs

1151
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:10,000
and had the ability to fund a company so

1152
00:47:15,569 --> 00:47:12,970
he could feed his passion and that's

1153
00:47:17,490 --> 00:47:15,579
what Tom's doing and for all the people

1154
00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:17,500
who are grumbling because they don't

1155
00:47:21,809 --> 00:47:20,230
approve of how Tom what Tom's doing or

1156
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:21,819
how he's doing it or what the company is

1157
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:24,490
doing tough you know like Maureen said

1158
00:47:29,010 --> 00:47:26,470
she said it brilliantly people need to

1159
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:29,020
manage their expectations a lot of this

1160
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:31,359
frustration comes from people creating

1161
00:47:36,839 --> 00:47:33,400
things in their head wanting things to

1162
00:47:38,730 --> 00:47:36,849
happen and you know that that's just not

1163
00:47:40,770 --> 00:47:38,740
realistic they need to manage their

1164
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:40,780
expectations and understand look even if

1165
00:47:44,789 --> 00:47:42,730
you're an investor into the Stars

1166
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:44,799
Academy of Arts and Science nobody

1167
00:47:50,220 --> 00:47:47,920
twisted your arm you chose to do that so

1168
00:47:52,829 --> 00:47:50,230
that's on you and you need to manage

1169
00:47:56,430 --> 00:47:52,839
your expectations even even if to the

1170
00:47:59,460 --> 00:47:56,440
stars doesn't do anything ever I applaud

1171
00:48:02,490 --> 00:47:59,470
the effort you know the more people we

1172
00:48:05,279 --> 00:48:02,500
have out there doing things trying to do

1173
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:05,289
research trying to to come up with

1174
00:48:11,819 --> 00:48:09,369
answers to this crazy unknown of UFOs

1175
00:48:14,279 --> 00:48:11,829
that's awesome we need all the people

1176
00:48:16,740 --> 00:48:14,289
doing all the things all the time if

1177
00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:16,750
they're successful that's awesome

1178
00:48:21,930 --> 00:48:19,660
if not yeah at least they tried it

1179
00:48:24,420 --> 00:48:21,940
doesn't affect me and it shouldn't

1180
00:48:26,010 --> 00:48:24,430
affect you if each again if you chose to

1181
00:48:27,299 --> 00:48:26,020
invest money that's on you and you

1182
00:48:30,450 --> 00:48:27,309
understand that it's not really an

1183
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:30,460
investment you really crowdfunded this

1184
00:48:35,430 --> 00:48:33,150
effort to do some awesome things so

1185
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:35,440
anything they do I think is great but

1186
00:48:38,849 --> 00:48:36,910
people need to understand and remember

1187
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:38,859
that to the Stars is primarily an

1188
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:41,049
entertainment company and there's some

1189
00:48:46,079 --> 00:48:42,609
awesome entertainment that's going to

1190
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:46,089
come out of it but again I view to the

1191
00:48:51,029 --> 00:48:48,490
stars as something very similar to open

1192
00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:51,039
minds what me and Maureen did as you

1193
00:48:55,019 --> 00:48:52,750
know a guy very passionate about

1194
00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:55,029
something and doing it with a company

1195
00:48:59,630 --> 00:48:56,670
and somebody who has so

1196
00:49:01,370 --> 00:48:59,640
lot of resources and access to do it on

1197
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:01,380
a much grander scale and now yeah we're

1198
00:49:05,839 --> 00:49:03,690
seeing I think that's amazing let's hope

1199
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:05,849
it doesn't go the way it turned out with

1200
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:08,970
open minds where he got bored because he

1201
00:49:17,799 --> 00:49:12,569
hadn't solved the alien problem right

1202
00:49:20,660 --> 00:49:17,809
well time yeah well tom is a

1203
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:20,670
self-proclaimed a DD so that that could

1204
00:49:25,010 --> 00:49:22,530
happen but fortunately he has other

1205
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:25,020
people involved so I don't think it will

1206
00:49:29,690 --> 00:49:27,540
go that way I think he chose these

1207
00:49:31,490 --> 00:49:29,700
people kind of like when you you have

1208
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:31,500
someone go to the gym with you you need

1209
00:49:35,299 --> 00:49:33,569
a gym buddy to keep you motivated so

1210
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:35,309
that's right that he has these pretty

1211
00:49:41,150 --> 00:49:38,760
prominent people a bit controversial but

1212
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:41,160
still prominent people involved they're

1213
00:49:45,020 --> 00:49:43,170
gonna keep it going and I think one of

1214
00:49:48,260 --> 00:49:45,030
my biggest problems right now is we just

1215
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:48,270
heard that he sold a show to TBS which

1216
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:50,609
is awesome and everyone was just

1217
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:52,910
pooh-poohing it like oh it's gonna be an

1218
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:55,410
animated family guy asked thing on the

1219
00:50:00,020 --> 00:49:58,079
paranormal which was strange to me I

1220
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:00,030
mean TBS is an odd choice I mean yeah

1221
00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:02,130
they've got similar programming but I

1222
00:50:07,789 --> 00:50:04,470
mean Maureen and I are very familiar

1223
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:07,799
with this property and you know this is

1224
00:50:11,450 --> 00:50:09,359
something that should be on like premium

1225
00:50:14,420 --> 00:50:11,460
cable or something where like nudity and

1226
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:14,430
profanity should be allowed like GPS is

1227
00:50:19,039 --> 00:50:17,040
not really going to fully encompass what

1228
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:19,049
strange times has to offer right I don't

1229
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:20,490
think they're really prepared for that

1230
00:50:24,799 --> 00:50:22,530
but what I want to say in terms of that

1231
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:24,809
Jason is who gives a [\h__\h] what network

1232
00:50:30,049 --> 00:50:27,510
gets on the fact of the matter is he got

1233
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:30,059
a show sold and that's going to bring in

1234
00:50:34,370 --> 00:50:32,280
money to then fund the scientific

1235
00:50:36,349 --> 00:50:34,380
research of to the stars that's what

1236
00:50:37,609 --> 00:50:36,359
people have to keep in mind they're like

1237
00:50:39,770 --> 00:50:37,619
oh all we're hearing about is the

1238
00:50:41,630 --> 00:50:39,780
entertainment stuff that the fiction

1239
00:50:43,970 --> 00:50:41,640
books the the nonfiction the

1240
00:50:46,099 --> 00:50:43,980
documentaries yeah no [\h__\h] how do you

1241
00:50:49,220 --> 00:50:46,109
make money you provide entertainment

1242
00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:49,230
that's sure and again that's that's them

1243
00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:51,660
managing their expectations or creating

1244
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:53,640
something that they want to happen but

1245
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:56,970
for me I will see this you ask how you

1246
00:50:59,720 --> 00:50:58,559
know our thoughts of change from the

1247
00:51:01,579 --> 00:50:59,730
beginning of the year to the end of the

1248
00:51:03,380 --> 00:51:01,589
year regarding to the stars and my

1249
00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:03,390
opinion of the company hasn't changed

1250
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:05,640
one bit and perhaps that's because I'm

1251
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:07,650
intimately familiar with what to the

1252
00:51:11,550 --> 00:51:08,890
stars is

1253
00:51:13,620 --> 00:51:11,560
and a lot if not all of what this

1254
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:13,630
company has done has been very public

1255
00:51:18,270 --> 00:51:16,510
from the very beginning so it's exactly

1256
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:18,280
what I expected they delivered exactly

1257
00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:20,770
what they've said they would and it's

1258
00:51:24,980 --> 00:51:22,630
just getting more and more exciting as

1259
00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:24,990
time goes on it can't happen you know

1260
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:28,270
every day every week every month stuff

1261
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:31,330
takes time but stuff has happened it is

1262
00:51:36,540 --> 00:51:34,480
happening and you know some it's a

1263
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:36,550
pretty cool stuff if I may say so and

1264
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:38,290
people need to understand the

1265
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:40,210
entertainment aspect that's the easy

1266
00:51:43,380 --> 00:51:40,720
part

1267
00:51:45,690 --> 00:51:43,390
exactly UFOs are quote-unquote cool

1268
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:45,700
right now there's a new shows popping up

1269
00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:46,450
all the time

1270
00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:48,190
so you have Tom who already has his

1271
00:51:53,370 --> 00:51:50,310
built-in fan base you he has all these

1272
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:53,380
these franchises mapped out already that

1273
00:51:57,630 --> 00:51:55,990
if you're an executive you know for

1274
00:52:00,420 --> 00:51:57,640
television or Hollywood that's an easy

1275
00:52:03,330 --> 00:52:00,430
sell you know this is the easy part the

1276
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:03,340
hard part is getting more people you

1277
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:05,680
know in positions of power on board more

1278
00:52:08,730 --> 00:52:07,450
mainstream coverage getting the research

1279
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:08,740
done that's the hard part that's what

1280
00:52:14,010 --> 00:52:11,650
takes time yes and a lot of people I've

1281
00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:14,020
heard this term floating around the -

1282
00:52:20,460 --> 00:52:17,950
the star syndrome where now every TV

1283
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:20,470
network and their mother wants to do a

1284
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:22,930
paranormal or UFO show I know everyone

1285
00:52:27,570 --> 00:52:25,450
on this panel has been tapped countless

1286
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:27,580
times this year since the New York Times

1287
00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:29,950
story broke since - the stars has been

1288
00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:33,070
doing this stuff so if anything yes -

1289
00:52:38,490 --> 00:52:36,430
the stars has made UFOs popular again

1290
00:52:40,770 --> 00:52:38,500
put them back into the mainstream and

1291
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:40,780
that's exciting and instead of getting

1292
00:52:44,130 --> 00:52:42,610
jealous and like bashing everything

1293
00:52:46,290 --> 00:52:44,140
they're doing I think we just got to

1294
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:46,300
ride the wave enjoy it for what we can

1295
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:48,520
get what we can out of it for our own

1296
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:51,310
research and just sort of wait and see

1297
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:52,240
what happens

1298
00:52:55,410 --> 00:52:53,920
or if you're gonna be a dick about it

1299
00:52:57,420 --> 00:52:55,420
don't pay attention to it it doesn't

1300
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:57,430
have to affect you go and do your own

1301
00:53:01,800 --> 00:52:58,960
thing don't worry about what other

1302
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:01,810
people are doing exactly by saying the

1303
00:53:06,780 --> 00:53:04,390
people who chose to invest they chose to

1304
00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:06,790
invest that was their money exactly I

1305
00:53:12,210 --> 00:53:09,220
chose not to invest personally just

1306
00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:12,220
because I did remain objective I mean if

1307
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:13,600
I'm gonna be a journalist and talk about

1308
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:15,040
this stuff I wanted to remain objective

1309
00:53:18,810 --> 00:53:16,930
I mean I'm already biased because we've

1310
00:53:20,970 --> 00:53:18,820
worked for to the stars I always throw

1311
00:53:23,089 --> 00:53:20,980
that out there but yeah I chose not to

1312
00:53:25,609 --> 00:53:23,099
invest because I want

1313
00:53:27,739 --> 00:53:25,619
objective and not tied to something

1314
00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:27,749
financially not to mention that the

1315
00:53:32,329 --> 00:53:29,700
investments weren't open in Arizona

1316
00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:32,339
where you live that's true they are they

1317
00:53:38,059 --> 00:53:34,079
think they were later but yeah at the

1318
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:38,069
launch not at all so I couldn't let's be

1319
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:40,950
honest yeah I'm a Jason terms of not

1320
00:53:43,940 --> 00:53:42,450
vesting I thought it would be kind of a

1321
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:43,950
conflict of interest since I cover this

1322
00:53:55,099 --> 00:53:46,529
and also I've given time too long so

1323
00:53:57,799 --> 00:53:55,109
much money since my moral support is

1324
00:53:59,450 --> 00:53:57,809
good enough absolutely no the only the

1325
00:54:02,839 --> 00:53:59,460
last thing I want to touch on were to

1326
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:02,849
the Stars guys is I had John Greenwald

1327
00:54:07,819 --> 00:54:05,130
on my show recently who we all know is

1328
00:54:10,219 --> 00:54:07,829
the guy who he's the fo ia guy any

1329
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:10,229
document pertaining to UFOs that has

1330
00:54:13,609 --> 00:54:12,329
been Declassified he's all about it he

1331
00:54:15,859 --> 00:54:13,619
gets it out there and gives it to the

1332
00:54:18,620 --> 00:54:15,869
public for free I talked to him all

1333
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,630
about to the Stars and a tip the actual

1334
00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:20,880
government funded project about UFOs the

1335
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,099
Pentagon program and what's really

1336
00:54:27,410 --> 00:54:25,680
interesting is he hasn't found much on

1337
00:54:30,140 --> 00:54:27,420
this thing now that's not to say it's

1338
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:30,150
not that it didn't exist we know it

1339
00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:33,119
existed what John argues is that it has

1340
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:34,950
been exaggerated beyond comprehension

1341
00:54:41,150 --> 00:54:38,130
that this program didn't really involve

1342
00:54:43,069 --> 00:54:41,160
UFOs that much in that mr. Elizondo

1343
00:54:45,289 --> 00:54:43,079
might not exactly have been as prominent

1344
00:54:46,969 --> 00:54:45,299
as many people think I mean we had him

1345
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:46,979
recently gave a presentation in Italy

1346
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:49,650
where he showed CGI'd photos to the

1347
00:54:54,890 --> 00:54:51,119
public and said that these were actual

1348
00:54:57,459 --> 00:54:54,900
photos of the Washington DC flap no that

1349
00:55:00,289 --> 00:54:57,469
was a blunder that I can't really

1350
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:00,299
understand how someone who headed a UFO

1351
00:55:05,059 --> 00:55:02,910
program could make something like that

1352
00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:05,069
in observation like that that a mistake

1353
00:55:10,489 --> 00:55:07,710
like that so I do want to err on the

1354
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:10,499
side of caution in terms of how

1355
00:55:15,019 --> 00:55:12,450
important this a tip project actually

1356
00:55:16,819 --> 00:55:15,029
was but at the end of the day I want to

1357
00:55:20,749 --> 00:55:16,829
ask you guys does that even matter to

1358
00:55:23,989 --> 00:55:20,759
any of you no no okay okay and again

1359
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:23,999
managing expectations look if we're

1360
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:26,640
taking Elizondo at his word and he did

1361
00:55:30,890 --> 00:55:28,890
what he said he did he's not a UFO

1362
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:30,900
historian he doesn't know everything

1363
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:34,609
about UFOs he had a specific job to

1364
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:36,690
study weird things in

1365
00:55:41,059 --> 00:55:38,880
sky that doesn't make him a UFO expert

1366
00:55:42,980 --> 00:55:41,069
or somebody who knows about UFO history

1367
00:55:47,329 --> 00:55:42,990
and he's admitted that he doesn't know

1368
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:47,339
UFO history so it's very understandable

1369
00:55:50,809 --> 00:55:49,680
that not really gonna know what they're

1370
00:55:52,490 --> 00:55:50,819
talking about when they're throwing up

1371
00:55:54,730 --> 00:55:52,500
all these old photos about you know

1372
00:55:57,770 --> 00:55:54,740
historical cases and all that stuff so

1373
00:55:59,390 --> 00:55:57,780
no I mean I think it's embarrassing yes

1374
00:56:00,620 --> 00:55:59,400
and they need to work on that especially

1375
00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:00,630
if they're going to be as public as they

1376
00:56:05,390 --> 00:56:02,940
want to be but that doesn't mean

1377
00:56:08,089 --> 00:56:05,400
anything in terms of a tip or it's its

1378
00:56:09,890 --> 00:56:08,099
legitimacy but it will say I mean we

1379
00:56:10,970 --> 00:56:09,900
already know that a tip wasn't really

1380
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:10,980
much of anything

1381
00:56:15,260 --> 00:56:12,810
I mean twenty-two million dollars come

1382
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:15,270
on that's nothing that's like a project

1383
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:17,130
of bringing in a project manager at the

1384
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:20,130
White House to replace a toilet and as

1385
00:56:25,130 --> 00:56:22,410
we've from Jeremy Korbel and many others

1386
00:56:27,530 --> 00:56:25,140
the bulk of that project was looking

1387
00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:27,540
into things not related to UFOs things

1388
00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:30,030
like skinwalker ranch being the bulk of

1389
00:56:35,569 --> 00:56:33,030
it so there you go well today I'm gonna

1390
00:56:37,069 --> 00:56:35,579
add it doesn't change you know kind of

1391
00:56:39,050 --> 00:56:37,079
whether I support them or not but I do

1392
00:56:41,180 --> 00:56:39,060
think it's very careless and sloppy and

1393
00:56:43,220 --> 00:56:41,190
it's not a good look because even though

1394
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:43,230
he wasn't you know an expert on UFOs

1395
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:45,810
previously you know Tom's also known for

1396
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:47,040
you know been posting photos on

1397
00:56:50,450 --> 00:56:48,450
Instagram and showing videos of things

1398
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:50,460
that we know are hoaxes and that's just

1399
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:52,710
sloppy and I think they definitely need

1400
00:56:57,319 --> 00:56:54,930
some crisis management in terms of

1401
00:56:59,599 --> 00:56:57,329
public relations I know there's like one

1402
00:57:01,640 --> 00:56:59,609
publicist there's Tom's publicist who I

1403
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:01,650
think does a decent job but I think they

1404
00:57:04,670 --> 00:57:02,910
actually need a team because a lot of

1405
00:57:05,089 --> 00:57:04,680
this stuff needs to be managed yeah for

1406
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:05,099
sure

1407
00:57:10,910 --> 00:57:07,170
but can you imagine having to be Tom's

1408
00:57:13,970 --> 00:57:10,920
publicist like what a giant job that is

1409
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:13,980
any any look I mean we've been doing

1410
00:57:19,099 --> 00:57:15,599
this Maureen and I've been doing this

1411
00:57:21,050 --> 00:57:19,109
for 10 plus years now and you know if my

1412
00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:21,060
job if I were brought onto something

1413
00:57:27,319 --> 00:57:23,550
like I'm not going to be able to do

1414
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:27,329
nearly as good of a job as he internet

1415
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:30,000
people you know you can think you've

1416
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:31,530
done all the research and everything in

1417
00:57:36,410 --> 00:57:33,210
the world but as soon as something goes

1418
00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:36,420
live you'll hear from a hundred hardcore

1419
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:38,609
internet people who will tell you how

1420
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:41,760
you you effed up and you know what a

1421
00:57:46,370 --> 00:57:44,010
terrible job you did and why the photo

1422
00:57:47,390 --> 00:57:46,380
you showed was proven to be a fake and

1423
00:57:52,819 --> 00:57:47,400
this and that

1424
00:57:54,769 --> 00:57:52,829
yeah I mean I want to add oh no I was

1425
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:54,779
just gonna say to your point the Roswell

1426
00:57:59,059 --> 00:57:57,210
slides were debunked in one day by the

1427
00:58:01,819 --> 00:57:59,069
Pyland one right that's all I'm gonna

1428
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:01,829
say and in one in one sense that's the

1429
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:03,690
easiest thing to do like hey let's just

1430
00:58:07,690 --> 00:58:05,490
put it up I'm not sure about it but if

1431
00:58:11,029 --> 00:58:07,700
we're wrong the internet'll let us know

1432
00:58:13,940 --> 00:58:11,039
the all-encompassing Internet Maureen

1433
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:13,950
what do you think I mean that it's a

1434
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:15,960
really good point and I think that it's

1435
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:17,130
terrifying

1436
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:19,650
in terms of there's always the risk that

1437
00:58:24,109 --> 00:58:22,770
you're gonna post something that you

1438
00:58:25,609 --> 00:58:24,119
know you're asking questions about this

1439
00:58:29,390 --> 00:58:25,619
actually just happened on Twitter today

1440
00:58:32,059 --> 00:58:29,400
I saw you commenting on it Ryan with

1441
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,069
with the San Romanek video some guy

1442
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:34,079
posted and tagged a bunch of people in

1443
00:58:39,230 --> 00:58:36,930
and he would he thought it was an

1444
00:58:47,660 --> 00:58:39,240
interesting video and then all of us

1445
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:47,670
within three seconds said no so there

1446
00:58:52,059 --> 00:58:49,410
you go I mean that's that stuff happens

1447
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:52,069
that poor guy was just unindicted with I

1448
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:54,720
will say the more you're in this field

1449
00:59:01,099 --> 00:58:58,319
the more you realize the importance of

1450
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,109
being cautious and certainly not

1451
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:03,119
throwing up a photo on a projector and

1452
00:59:08,420 --> 00:59:05,730
going and this is a real photo you know

1453
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:08,430
you have to be careful and engage

1454
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:12,210
everything you know allegedly is a very

1455
00:59:16,579 --> 00:59:14,760
good word to enter your vocabulary and

1456
00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:16,589
have it be used frequently and often

1457
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:19,430
everyone knows it's my favorite word

1458
00:59:26,990 --> 00:59:24,170
when I was on that a stupid show on

1459
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:27,000
discovery people were joking about that

1460
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,770
if they made an action doll of me I'd

1461
00:59:34,609 --> 00:59:30,240
have a string in the back and you pull

1462
00:59:37,269 --> 00:59:34,619
it and say allegedly Aurora's ancient

1463
00:59:39,549 --> 00:59:37,279
aliens has taught us could it be that

1464
00:59:42,620 --> 00:59:39,559
hot

1465
00:59:44,539 --> 00:59:42,630
well alright guys I think to the Stars

1466
00:59:46,779 --> 00:59:44,549
has gotten enough enough of our time

1467
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:46,789
here I want to move to another

1468
00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:49,680
entertainment project that is going to

1469
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:52,079
premiere at the beginning of 2019 and

1470
00:59:57,799 --> 00:59:56,130
now yeah is Project Blue Book names dr.

1471
01:00:01,339 --> 00:59:57,809
Allen Hynek you

1472
01:00:02,689 --> 01:00:01,349
want me to investigate flying saucers I

1473
01:00:06,709 --> 01:00:02,699
want you to help me prove to the public

1474
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:06,719
the truth they don't exist Jason we saw

1475
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:08,880
this thing in full force at alien Con

1476
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:11,130
it's been we've known about it for a

1477
01:00:17,779 --> 01:00:14,640
while now some of us have seen a good

1478
01:00:18,499 --> 01:00:17,789
chunk of the first six episodes or so of

1479
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:18,509
it

1480
01:00:24,709 --> 01:00:22,170
so guys J Allen Hynek our UFO

1481
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:24,719
grandfather UFO dad however you want to

1482
01:00:30,439 --> 01:00:28,049
put it is now making it to the silver

1483
01:00:33,049 --> 01:00:30,449
screen we're gonna see him weekly though

1484
01:00:34,579 --> 01:00:33,059
so what do we all make of this project

1485
01:00:36,890 --> 01:00:34,589
Bluebook the television series

1486
01:00:38,179 --> 01:00:36,900
premiering on the History Channel I'm

1487
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,189
ready to explode but I'll let other

1488
01:00:41,749 --> 01:00:40,079
people go I haven't seen it y'all has

1489
01:00:44,569 --> 01:00:41,759
actually seen it and I'm just curious

1490
01:00:46,999 --> 01:00:44,579
you haven't no I have I've seen the

1491
01:00:49,219 --> 01:00:47,009
first six episodes I was very fortunate

1492
01:00:50,809 --> 01:00:49,229
to have that but pouring salt in the

1493
01:00:52,939 --> 01:00:50,819
wound I'm sorry my man but what do you

1494
01:00:54,289 --> 01:00:52,949
think but it was your initial reactions

1495
01:00:56,749 --> 01:00:54,299
to hearing that they were going to be

1496
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:56,759
making a television show about Project

1497
01:00:59,479 --> 01:00:58,319
Blue Book well once again this is

1498
01:01:01,309 --> 01:00:59,489
something it's gonna be highly

1499
01:01:03,890 --> 01:01:01,319
fictionalized as well so that's what I'm

1500
01:01:06,380 --> 01:01:03,900
curious to see if how much of it pulls

1501
01:01:08,239 --> 01:01:06,390
from what we we know to be true and how

1502
01:01:10,519 --> 01:01:08,249
much of it is fictionalized but either

1503
01:01:12,859 --> 01:01:10,529
way I'm so excited for it because I feel

1504
01:01:15,829 --> 01:01:12,869
like we haven't had a show like this on

1505
01:01:16,759 --> 01:01:15,839
television in a while especially you

1506
01:01:19,459 --> 01:01:16,769
know something that hits close to home

1507
01:01:20,569 --> 01:01:19,469
to all of us so I'm excited for and the

1508
01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:20,579
fact that you know it's on the History

1509
01:01:23,749 --> 01:01:21,839
Channel I think that's a good thing too

1510
01:01:26,809 --> 01:01:23,759
you'll see it probably packaged with

1511
01:01:29,779 --> 01:01:26,819
ancient aliens on at some point three

1512
01:01:31,309 --> 01:01:29,789
runs but you know yes it's you know Ron

1513
01:01:32,419 --> 01:01:31,319
you've seen it before without giving you

1514
01:01:34,370 --> 01:01:32,429
spoil or don't know how much you can

1515
01:01:38,209 --> 01:01:34,380
speak to it but would you say that is it

1516
01:01:41,059 --> 01:01:38,219
is a fair representation absolutely and

1517
01:01:43,849 --> 01:01:41,069
I can say that very without any

1518
01:01:48,890 --> 01:01:43,859
hesitation to be honest it is it's fair

1519
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:48,900
it's authentic but it is a drama is

1520
01:01:53,870 --> 01:01:51,119
fiction it's a drama it's fiction

1521
01:01:56,089 --> 01:01:53,880
I recently interviewed the creator and

1522
01:01:59,359 --> 01:01:56,099
the showrunner of the show that'll be

1523
01:02:02,239 --> 01:01:59,369
airing in a few weeks from now but they

1524
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:02,249
they stress that of course we had to

1525
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:04,650
fictionalize aspects we need to create a

1526
01:02:09,829 --> 01:02:07,609
narrative for all of this so I

1527
01:02:11,140 --> 01:02:09,839
understand those who said it's not

1528
01:02:13,420 --> 01:02:11,150
accurate it's it's going to be

1529
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:13,430
why is Hynek looking at an alien and a

1530
01:02:17,830 --> 01:02:15,770
tube-like I totally mean in all that I

1531
01:02:20,410 --> 01:02:17,840
totally get her but until you see it

1532
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:20,420
until you see the story they lay out I'm

1533
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:22,850
sort of reserving judgment on saying

1534
01:02:29,380 --> 01:02:26,570
they totally botched it it is a slick

1535
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:29,390
show it is beautiful it is well-written

1536
01:02:36,430 --> 01:02:33,530
it is amazingly acted by in and Gillan

1537
01:02:39,970 --> 01:02:36,440
plain J Allen Hynek and the other actors

1538
01:02:42,430 --> 01:02:39,980
as well I think it's great again it's

1539
01:02:45,340 --> 01:02:42,440
the History Channel so there's a lot of

1540
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:45,350
historical stuff in it a lot of cases we

1541
01:02:48,970 --> 01:02:47,450
all know in the UFO community but this

1542
01:02:51,130 --> 01:02:48,980
is gonna be the first time for a lot of

1543
01:02:53,020 --> 01:02:51,140
people hearing about these cases so

1544
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:53,030
that's more exciting than did they get

1545
01:02:57,310 --> 01:02:55,130
this right was was this the date it

1546
01:02:59,500 --> 01:02:57,320
actually happened this that's exactly

1547
01:03:01,540 --> 01:02:59,510
yeah see again we come back to manage

1548
01:03:03,370 --> 01:03:01,550
expectations and people you know wanting

1549
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:03,380
this to be something it's not this is

1550
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:07,010
not a documentary it's a drama TV show

1551
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:09,770
it's fiction but it's based on something

1552
01:03:15,340 --> 01:03:12,650
true so there's a lot of truth in here

1553
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:15,350
so this if you like x-files

1554
01:03:19,870 --> 01:03:18,170
you know people on the UF of x-files

1555
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:19,880
because it's talking about it we all

1556
01:03:25,930 --> 01:03:22,130
love and are passionate about well this

1557
01:03:29,350 --> 01:03:25,940
is the same thing but it's referencing

1558
01:03:32,170 --> 01:03:29,360
something that was real yeah so keep

1559
01:03:34,570 --> 01:03:32,180
that in mind think of it as a an x-files

1560
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:34,580
period piece because that's what it is

1561
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:38,930
and this show is so well done Paul Hynek

1562
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:41,330
J Allen Hynek son is a consultant on the

1563
01:03:45,610 --> 01:03:43,970
show so that should tell you something

1564
01:03:47,740 --> 01:03:45,620
and I just think they did such a great

1565
01:03:49,870 --> 01:03:47,750
job with this I am excited to see the

1566
01:03:52,420 --> 01:03:49,880
first season I saw the first episode I

1567
01:03:54,220 --> 01:03:52,430
was blown away by it if you are a UFO

1568
01:03:56,020 --> 01:03:54,230
fan this is gonna be such a fun ride

1569
01:03:57,490 --> 01:03:56,030
just don't expect it to be a documentary

1570
01:03:58,750 --> 01:03:57,500
telling you what actually happened with

1571
01:04:00,460 --> 01:03:58,760
Project Blue Book because you're not

1572
01:04:02,740 --> 01:04:00,470
going to get it but you will have fun

1573
01:04:06,990 --> 01:04:02,750
because it's a TV show about UFOs and

1574
01:04:10,470 --> 01:04:07,000
that being said - they did post today a

1575
01:04:13,180 --> 01:04:10,480
sighting reports Matt wasn't that rad

1576
01:04:15,430 --> 01:04:13,190
historical UFO cases the Project Blue

1577
01:04:16,930 --> 01:04:15,440
Book investigated so if I believe you go

1578
01:04:18,670 --> 01:04:16,940
to Twitter and it just go to any of the

1579
01:04:20,890 --> 01:04:18,680
Project Blue Book social networks and

1580
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:20,900
you'll see this thing there any other

1581
01:04:23,810 --> 01:04:23,090
social no over ours yeah we all shared

1582
01:04:26,780 --> 01:04:23,820
it there

1583
01:04:28,790 --> 01:04:26,790
going out of their way to really do

1584
01:04:31,490 --> 01:04:28,800
their homework with this show I know for

1585
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:31,500
a fact that the creator spoke to the

1586
01:04:35,210 --> 01:04:34,770
last living person who ran project

1587
01:04:39,050 --> 01:04:35,220
Bluebook

1588
01:04:42,380 --> 01:04:39,060
talked to him extensively about it again

1589
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:42,390
Paul Hynek is a is a contributor to all

1590
01:04:47,810 --> 01:04:45,330
of this as well and it they did

1591
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:47,820
everything they could to to make this as

1592
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:49,680
accurate as possible so and he's

1593
01:04:55,610 --> 01:04:52,890
throwing so much money at this show it's

1594
01:04:57,380 --> 01:04:55,620
ridiculous yeah yeah I'm super psyched

1595
01:04:59,930 --> 01:04:57,390
because the year guys is glowing review

1596
01:05:02,240 --> 01:04:59,940
and also I have to say that this show is

1597
01:05:05,420 --> 01:05:02,250
coming out at a really opportune time

1598
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:05,430
for our friend James Fox yeah you've

1599
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:08,490
been working on a movie about the 701

1600
01:05:14,060 --> 01:05:11,730
cases that are unidentified in project

1601
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:14,070
Bluebook for four years but I know he's

1602
01:05:18,530 --> 01:05:16,110
getting closer to having this

1603
01:05:20,990 --> 01:05:18,540
documentary be a reality

1604
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so no disrespect friend Jeremy Korbel

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01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:23,190
the movie James is right now is going to

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01:05:27,740 --> 01:05:25,290
be just a just going out on a limb here

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01:05:30,860 --> 01:05:27,750
but I think it's going to be the most

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01:05:33,620 --> 01:05:30,870
incredible UFO documentary I have high

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01:05:36,740 --> 01:05:33,630
expectations because I know how much

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01:05:39,380 --> 01:05:36,750
research that James has put into this

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01:05:43,460 --> 01:05:39,390
project already as well as you know

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01:05:45,770 --> 01:05:43,470
having Lee Spiegel along with him and I

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01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:45,780
was super bummed because at one point

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01:05:49,550 --> 01:05:47,850
James did reset reach out to me and

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01:05:51,980 --> 01:05:49,560
asked if I could help with some stuff

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01:05:53,930 --> 01:05:51,990
meet you the documentary yet but it was

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01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:53,940
it was a task that would be too

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01:05:59,780 --> 01:05:57,690
time-consuming for what I had but it's

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01:06:03,350 --> 01:05:59,790
I'm so excited about that documentary

1620
01:06:05,330 --> 01:06:03,360
that I am really looking forward that

1621
01:06:08,420 --> 01:06:05,340
like all this project Bluebook stuff is

1622
01:06:11,630 --> 01:06:08,430
coming true ition coming up in the near

1623
01:06:14,540 --> 01:06:11,640
future you know little fingers on it

1624
01:06:16,780 --> 01:06:14,550
yeah that's a good point

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01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:16,790
they got an incredible cast for this one

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01:06:21,050 --> 01:06:19,290
well I mean that's a good way to sort of

1627
01:06:25,610 --> 01:06:21,060
wrap this up guys is what you're looking

1628
01:06:27,830 --> 01:06:25,620
forward to in 2019 in terms of UFOs I'm

1629
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:27,840
gonna say mine right now and you already

1630
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:29,570
mentioned it it is James Fox's

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01:06:34,820 --> 01:06:31,290
documentary I think this is going to

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01:06:37,580 --> 01:06:34,830
blow people away I've seen about 30

1633
01:06:42,020 --> 01:06:37,590
minutes of it that he shared with me

1634
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:42,030
and ooh the access he got to some of the

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01:06:46,820 --> 01:06:44,330
individuals in this documentary is

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01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:46,830
really going to start some conversations

1637
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:49,440
for sure so that's what I'm looking

1638
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:51,330
forward to Mike what are you looking

1639
01:06:55,370 --> 01:06:53,970
forward to in 2019 in terms of UFOs I

1640
01:06:57,770 --> 01:06:55,380
want to see the secret machines

1641
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:57,780
documentary just from the very beginning

1642
01:07:02,450 --> 01:07:00,240
when he started teasing footage and

1643
01:07:04,130 --> 01:07:02,460
people who were talking to Olly he's had

1644
01:07:06,110 --> 01:07:04,140
a camera Thomas had a camera within the

1645
01:07:08,990 --> 01:07:06,120
whole time and I'm a big fan of the

1646
01:07:10,550 --> 01:07:09,000
non-fiction books as well so a lot to

1647
01:07:12,530 --> 01:07:10,560
see more documentaries like fiction

1648
01:07:14,090 --> 01:07:12,540
school as well but you know we have so

1649
01:07:16,070 --> 01:07:14,100
much fiction coming out this year with

1650
01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:16,080
Project Blue Book give us more

1651
01:07:20,210 --> 01:07:18,420
documentaries because right now they're

1652
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:20,220
popular I mean if you look at Jeremy's

1653
01:07:23,570 --> 01:07:22,410
film how well it's doing and you know

1654
01:07:25,010 --> 01:07:23,580
you guys are it because you guys were at

1655
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:25,020
the premiere so how many how many kids

1656
01:07:30,740 --> 01:07:28,290
were there doing it yeah give me more

1657
01:07:32,540 --> 01:07:30,750
documentaries well I will one-up you

1658
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:32,550
Mike and I will say work with me

1659
01:07:40,130 --> 01:07:34,410
together and let's make a punk rock and

1660
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:42,650
rad I mean Maureen and I basically did

1661
01:07:48,260 --> 01:07:46,170
that at Warped Tour that was the start

1662
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:48,270
you know that that's our blueprint we'll

1663
01:07:51,940 --> 01:07:50,250
just go around we'll talk to bands about

1664
01:07:55,820 --> 01:07:51,950
UFOs it'd be awesome

1665
01:07:59,600 --> 01:07:55,830
I have footage with oh yeah yeah yeah

1666
01:08:01,880 --> 01:07:59,610
you do that's awesome so yeah we're on

1667
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:01,890
our lane with some footage I have when I

1668
01:08:05,510 --> 01:08:04,170
interview Tom about the election to from

1669
01:08:07,790 --> 01:08:05,520
a couple years ago that's kind of some

1670
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:07,800
fun right well let's work on it we'll

1671
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:17,730
look forward to that in rock and UFOs

1672
01:08:25,070 --> 01:08:22,530
the documentary coming 2019 work on it

1673
01:08:27,650 --> 01:08:25,080
so Jason how about you is that is that

1674
01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:27,660
it I assume I'm looking forward to the

1675
01:08:32,270 --> 01:08:30,480
punk rock and UFOs documentary yeah no

1676
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:32,280
project Bluebook I am I'm stoked on this

1677
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:35,010
show I mean you know the recent x-files

1678
01:08:41,750 --> 01:08:37,050
left us all a little disappointed and

1679
01:08:43,630 --> 01:08:41,760
wanting more but Blue Book man if the

1680
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:43,640
rest of the the the season is like

1681
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:46,410
episode 1 I'm just I'm ready for it

1682
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:49,770
because again as a fan of this genre and

1683
01:08:53,420 --> 01:08:51,330
as the the top

1684
01:08:56,330 --> 01:08:53,430
of UFOs taking something that's real and

1685
01:08:58,730 --> 01:08:56,340
presenting it in this way I number one

1686
01:09:00,980 --> 01:08:58,740
I'm excited because it's a great show

1687
01:09:03,230 --> 01:09:00,990
and number two I think the possibilities

1688
01:09:04,580 --> 01:09:03,240
for exposing people to the reality of

1689
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:04,590
Project Blue Book and the government's

1690
01:09:09,350 --> 01:09:07,530
interest in UFOs is ridiculous I'm

1691
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:09,360
excited about that I'm also excited to

1692
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:11,970
see what happens with things in the

1693
01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:14,610
general public like alien con alien con

1694
01:09:18,530 --> 01:09:16,640
has started this massive movement

1695
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:18,540
baltimore was unreal

1696
01:09:24,410 --> 01:09:21,570
and moving it to LA for the California

1697
01:09:27,860 --> 01:09:24,420
one in June I think that thing is going

1698
01:09:29,900 --> 01:09:27,870
to be huge so I'm really looking forward

1699
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:29,910
to seeing the kind of turnout they get

1700
01:09:33,740 --> 01:09:31,770
the people they get and just what that

1701
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:33,750
experience is because again that's pop

1702
01:09:38,510 --> 01:09:36,510
culture that's the general public people

1703
01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:38,520
going there they've never looked into

1704
01:09:41,480 --> 01:09:40,020
UFOs for themselves they've never been

1705
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:41,490
to a UFO conference they've never read a

1706
01:09:45,980 --> 01:09:43,890
UFO book they just have this interest in

1707
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:45,990
the topic and that's their introduction

1708
01:09:51,530 --> 01:09:49,410
and you know there's so many people tens

1709
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:51,540
of thousands of people going to this

1710
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:53,130
event for the first time so I think it's

1711
01:09:57,020 --> 01:09:54,690
really exciting so I can't wait to see

1712
01:09:59,660 --> 01:09:57,030
what that does for for the topic for the

1713
01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:59,670
discussion of UFOs in 2019 perfect

1714
01:10:04,190 --> 01:10:01,920
Maureen how about you anything else well

1715
01:10:06,230 --> 01:10:04,200
I would say I'm hopefully looking

1716
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:06,240
forward to not alone only the 7:01 and

1717
01:10:14,810 --> 01:10:09,690
Project Blue Book doing more spacing out

1718
01:10:16,670 --> 01:10:14,820
man Jason come on yeah gonna return with

1719
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:16,680
episodes gonna be with Jeremy coming up

1720
01:10:24,260 --> 01:10:20,130
yeah and and I think as well more

1721
01:10:27,410 --> 01:10:24,270
advancements in the space front just

1722
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:27,420
seeing if we can't just keep searching

1723
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:29,010
for extraterrestrial life as long as we

1724
01:10:33,980 --> 01:10:31,410
can maybe one day we'll have definitive

1725
01:10:38,020 --> 01:10:33,990
proof but yeah awesome it's looking

1726
01:10:41,090 --> 01:10:38,030
bright for 2019 so let's run through our

1727
01:10:44,050 --> 01:10:41,100
our socials here guys Mike where can we

1728
01:10:47,690 --> 01:10:44,060
find all of your work my man in 2019

1729
01:10:50,510 --> 01:10:47,700
Park in UFOs calm great Jason what do

1730
01:10:53,150 --> 01:10:50,520
you got rope Lana Dottie is the place

1731
01:10:56,870 --> 01:10:53,160
for everything follow me on twitter at a

1732
01:10:59,870 --> 01:10:56,880
strike that's ACEC ENT Ric you can find

1733
01:11:02,720 --> 01:10:59,880
me on Facebook at the UFO geek perfect

1734
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:02,730
and Maureen all of my handles usually

1735
01:11:05,850 --> 01:11:04,210
are my full name so

1736
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:05,860
Maureen Elsberry I won't spell it out

1737
01:11:10,830 --> 01:11:08,170
for you so Twitter Instagram and you can

1738
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:10,840
find me at Road Planet TV and Maureen

1739
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:13,690
Elsberry dot-com which is really not

1740
01:11:20,370 --> 01:11:17,920
updated often that's alright well guys

1741
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:20,380
you know where to find me at rogue

1742
01:11:26,610 --> 01:11:22,719
planet TV and somewhere in the skies

1743
01:11:29,459 --> 01:11:26,620
calm and just look for a ton of stuff to

1744
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:29,469
come at you guys content wise from all

1745
01:11:34,770 --> 01:11:32,050
of us in the coming year I cannot wait

1746
01:11:39,030 --> 01:11:34,780
and I have to thank all of you guys for

1747
01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:39,040
joining me on this 2018 UFO year with

1748
01:11:45,780 --> 01:11:41,350
you so thank you very much thank you

1749
01:11:48,990 --> 01:11:45,790
thanks for having us that's it for the

1750
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:49,000
2018 UFO Year in Review thank you again

1751
01:11:53,220 --> 01:11:51,520
to Mike Jason and Maureen for joining me

1752
01:11:55,890 --> 01:11:53,230
and be sure to check out all their

1753
01:11:59,820 --> 01:11:55,900
amazing work at punk rock in UFOs calm

1754
01:12:02,400 --> 01:11:59,830
and at rogue planet TV the holidays are

1755
01:12:04,860 --> 01:12:02,410
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1756
01:12:07,410 --> 01:12:04,870
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1757
01:12:10,250 --> 01:12:07,420
so be on the lookout for those in the

1758
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:10,260
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1759
01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:13,330
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1772
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1780
01:13:10,570 --> 01:13:08,530
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1781
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